In today’s outsourcing landscape, success depends on much more than cost savings and process efficiency.

On 25^th February 2025, Neville Doughty and Phil Kitchen from the Customer Contact Panel hosted a webinar with Joe Hill-Wilson, CEO and Co-Founder of Learn Amp and Martin Hill-Wilson, Owner of Brainfood Consulting, to discuss Sustainable Operating Models in Outsourcing. One of the most important takeaways from the discussion on sustainable operating models is that Learning and Development (L&D) must be embedded into the core of every outsourcing strategy. Without continuous learning, sustainability simply isn’t possible.

Why Learning and Development is a Sustainability Driver

In outsourcing environments, teams often face rapid change, evolving client expectations, and shifting technologies. This is reflected in the data – 92% of organisations are facing high or very high risk of top talent leaving in the next year (Brandon Hall Group, HCM Outlook, 2024). Without a structured and ongoing approach to skills development, outsourced teams can struggle to keep pace, leading to inconsistent quality, reduced productivity, and higher turnover . During the webinar, 82% of attendees reported that current procurement practice restricts the value they can bring to their clients.

The key takeaway? Organisations that embed L&D into their operating models create more resilient, adaptable, and future-ready outsourcing workforces.

Challenges in Sustainable Learning for Outsourced Teams

The panel discussed the various challenges companies face when it comes to embedding learning into outsourced operations:

• Geographical and Cultural Gaps: How can we create a unified learning experience for teams spread across different countries, cultures, and time zones?
• Engagement and Adoption: With high attrition rates common in outsourced environments, how do we motivate teams to actively engage in learning?
• Measuring Impact: How can we quantify the ROI of learning programs in outsourcing partnerships?

What Effective L&D Looks Like in Sustainable Outsourcing

When looking at solutions for the challenges discussed, the panel noted the importance of centralised learning platforms that deliver consistent, engaging content to all locations. Platforms like Learn Amp help organisations create:

• Standardised onboarding programs to accelerate time-to-competence.
• Bite-sized, mobile-friendly learning content to fit learning into busy shifts.
• Social learning spaces that encourage peer-to-peer knowledge sharing.
• Data dashboards to measure engagement, skills development, and business impact.

Embedding L&D into Operating Models: 3 Key Strategies

Treat L&D as a Business Process, not a Project
Learning shouldn’t be an afterthought or an annual event. It needs to be a continuous, embedded process that evolves with the business and its outsourcing needs. 

Make Learning a Shared Responsibility
Learning success shouldn’t fall solely on HR or L&D teams. Operations managers, team leaders, and employees themselves all need to co-own learning outcomes. 

Measure What Matters
Sustainable learning models measure not just completion rates, but real business impact: faster onboarding; fewer errors; higher customer satisfaction; and improved employee retention. The LinkedIn Workplace Report shared that 94% of employees would stay longer if companies invested in their development. 

Key Takeaway

If there’s one key takeaway from the webinar, it’s this: sustainable outsourcing depends on sustainable learning. When organisations invest in embedding learning into every stage of the outsourcing lifecycle, they create an employee experience where team members thrive.

If you would like to access a copy of the recording it is available here: Webinar Link

Reviewing the results there was a clear view that people know their roles, the different aspects of it, the impact of people development and appropriate investment in it and the importance of the ongoing development of people in contact centre environments.

We know why we are here and what we are supposed to do

This survey area scored strongly and aligns with wider miPerform research around front line staff and how they are engaged, there is no shortage of data at a senior level, however those who engage directly with customers are perhaps less likely to see the strategic objectives of an organisation.  There are still opportunities to unlock further value from customer conversations, ensuring people have the right skills and knowledge to engage in these.

I know what excellence looks like in my role

84.5% of participants in the survey believe that they know what excellence in their role looks like. However, the ability to demonstrate this to customers and to clients is something to be considered, how can we ensure that we are measuring and reporting the service that is being delivered?  Measures like CSAT are always considered, however the retention of both customers and critically employees, which could be the most significant metric as staff who are engaged, know their role, are confident in their delivery are happier in their work, they will not only delight customers but will be less likely to leave due to feeling undervalued. This results in unquestionable benefits the employee, customer and business.

The ability to deliver continuous feedback in the right way so that people feel supported and empowered is critical to people wanting to, and being able to share that knowledge with customers.

Staff development plays a huge role in brand reputation, perhaps as an output of increase productivity and delivery of service levels, with 94% suggesting a strong correlation to the impact on this.

However there was sometimes a clear disparity between the amount of time available for staff training and the recognised benefits equally there were times when the time available was much higher than expected. Another key theme was there was a gap between in knowledge about what specifically people needed to be trained on, to ensure that there is value in coaching there needs to be better analysis as to where the training is needed and what technology can be used in supporting this.

Ensuring that coaches and trainers have the right insights to direct training as effectively as possible can be supported by technology:

• Focusing efforts with support on the right subjects and with the appropriate delivery methods,
• These may be conversations within the operation, not necessarily removing people from the operation to sit in a training room
• Remote working needs to be considered in this context with the appropriate monitoring and support,
• Training still needs to be specific to the needs of the individual,
• Which enables us to think more about how we make training and coaching really count for the individual?

Tools like Cognexo as a micro learning solution can take as little as 2 minutes per day and be delivered through a channel aligned to the daily tasks of the staff member, therefore engagement levels are maintained above 91% as it is part of the daily routine.

Behaviour shifts are the result of the right conversations.

It isn’t always necessary to take people out of their day-to-day environment to change culture or behaviours and the role of the manager in ensuring that they are “walking the walk” being a visible leader, providing coaching and support, leading with the right insights ensures the most impact.

Managers must be able to understand their people as individuals, that the outcomes that need to be delivered for the customers require appropriate trust and autonomy due to the unique nature of customer interactions which is increasingly pertinent as AI and automation completes the easier tasks, we need to consider what measure and how we manage.  Whilst this may feel obvious, the shift to home working may make access to these skills harder for our next generation of Team Leaders.

We need to listen to the experiences of the front line staff, the roles are getting harder, but we need to ensure people are allowed to contribute to the process, to provide feedback about the processes and how things may be done differently, technology may be used for surveys with employees and to consolidate those responses, with a workflow to the management to ensure that all staff feedback is captured.   

“Managers need to ensure that they understand their people on a personal level”  

Enabling people to review their own performance and to track against the expected levels of delivery empowers them to properly understand where they are, how they are doing and where they may need support.

This can be used as a tool to support culture change, however, when time can be limited because of operational pressures so the subject matter and insight of what training or coaching is critical to get the right support to staff at the right time.

Budgets may not always be allocated to ongoing training and investment time may not always be scheduled as often as people may like, ROI models around attrition reduction benefits and how this filters through the business in other impacts, the role of ongoing personal development to retaining staff and supporting the growth of brand reputation,

In a world of AI we still need to ensure investment in people

A 1% increase in engagement can deliver a 2% increase in productivity, there are multiple benefits as a result, using coaching and learning to deliver contact centre culture is not achieved through pizza on a Friday, technology can be useful but we need to ensure that people within the organisation are considered in the mix, from agents and first line manager levels, who need to see that the insights are being used through to the senior team who may need stronger insights to drive strategic decision making.

If you’d like to talk further then please contact me directly and we can look at how we can help. 

Will changes for other businesses lead to a realisation that contact centres have been progressive in their approach and potentially increase the recruitment pool or will contact centre leaders need to make changes to become more competitive in recruitment of the best talent?

Perhaps we are more progressive in contact centres than we give ourselves credit for?

We’ve written before around the view that despite our collective best efforts, our industry can often have something of an image problem with those on the outside, and, unfortunately, for some who work in the sector as well, because of arcane processes that may have been applied by some managers.

Working in contact centres can be tough and is seen by many as an interim role as opposed to a career path. The use of terms like CX may make it a more noble cause, even if the gap between customer ambition and realities can seem large. However, (I hope!) many people reading this article will recall a journey from a stop-gap role to a ‘proper’ career, which has delivered job satisfaction, personal development, promotions and a level of reward which affords a quality standard of living and the attainment of life goals.

You may also reflect on the flexibility that working in contact centres may have afforded you in your life, initially from being in operations in which there were options as a result of:

• 7 days per week, which may have resulted in working a weekend day, but having time off in the week,
• 24/7 operations where dealing with something through the night resulted in lieu time at a convenient time
• Creating 4 day weeks with compressed hours to enable flexibility for your staff and ensure capacity where your customers needed it
• Split shifts (ok maybe not 25 years ago, when that meant going to work twice in the same day, but post pandemic with home working)
• Part time shifts which worked around the school run or after lectures
• The ability to work remotely and therefore mitigate communing time

So, perhaps when talking about flexible working and encouraging greater control over work-life balance we should already be seeing contact centres of a beacon of what can be achieved (even if that does sometimes mean rolling rotas to ensure that customers have access to support when they need it?).

But it doesn’t end there does it?

Contact centres – through necessity in some cases, of course – have embraced the real living wage and providing better rewards for frontline staff. However, the reality is that skilled contact centre agents may still be earning similar amounts to those in roles where there may be less stress or pressure. Self-service and automation mean there are less “easy” contacts and as customer expectations and levels of knowledge increase, the role does get harder.  Put simply, there is more for agents to deal with now, when considering the complexity of queries and vulnerabilities of customers.

Admittedly, where costs are key and businesses are feeling pressure to manage the cost of customer service and acquisition, then offshoring has been the norm for some time. As we know, offshoring doesn’t necessarily reduce quality, but it takes hard work to get it right. The manufacturing sector had already followed this route, in many cases years earlier.  Unfortunately, our industry faces more scrutiny for moving work out of the UK than others, it seems.

The same customer service ‘exceptionalism’ may also apply to automation, with a recent Gartner survey highlighting that 64% of customers would rather companies didn’t use AI in customer service delivery.

Out of necessity the industry will keep pace with changes to minimum wage, however there will be an inevitable impact to either the cost of the product or margins. In which case more innovative techniques will need to be adopted to maximise margins.

I’d like to think we’ve been pioneers in ensuring equality. When I see news pieces around gender and representation of women in boardrooms, I reflect on the fantastic female influences I’ve had through my career, senior management and directors who have shaped my career and given me opportunities to develop.

I believe that contact centres are (for want of a better term) unfortunately ahead of the changing employment curve. I say unfortunately as contact centres’ relative enlightenment can disadvantage other sectors.  I don’t have access to contact centre-specific data on gender pay gaps. And though I assume a gap is still sadly probable, I would think it is relatively lower in contact centres, based on the skill, talent and mindset that we have in the sector, 

So, could this be a new dawn of realisation?

We were discussing last week the same story in multiple newspaper articles around easyJet and their recruitment of people aged 50 and above for cabin crew roles, citing their life and communication skills as a key benefit to passengers and by extension their new employer.

The shift rotas offered the flexibility of working alternate weeks, for example, or four days on four days off (I recall that over 20 years ago in contact centres we called this a continental shift pattern). This type of recruitment should open up the ability to recruit people who previously decided to leave full time employment after the pandemic back into roles.

Admittedly, customer service at 35,000ft may have more appeal for some than dealing with a phone call or webchat concerning a utility bill, for example.  However, in contact centres we recognise clearly that life skills and knowledge are of significant benefit to our customers and have been recruiting from all demographics for decades.

We believe that we are well ahead of other sectors in our approach to working practices and rights. Undeniably, negative perceptions evoking the ‘dark satanic mills’ persist for many and horror stories from 20 years ago (and occasionally today) remain.  But the contact centre industry is probably in a better place than we are given credit for.

We will however need to manage challenges as a result of changes to legislation around worker rights, there are likely to be changes in WFM that will need to be considered, potential impacts to payroll and management of holidays.

Additionally, there may be changes harder to identify on the surface – maintaining knowledge and communications when more people work compressed hours could be one.

We have the skills and tools ready to support altered employment practices and we’ve demonstrated time and time again that we can change when needed.  If you are facing challenges maintaining employee knowledge and experience, managing performance metrics or even protecting a sustainable margin in your contact centre operations then you won’t be alone.   

We are here to help, just ask.

The Customer Contact Panel team is made up of contact centre professionals who have seen a number of challenges and changes in the sector over the past 30 years, we use our experience to support both in-house operations, those wanting to outsource and outsourcers to deliver contact centres that match their ambitions whether that be sales or service.

If you have a thorny challenge then we’d love to hear about it, we share our thinking and have supported fantastic brands in finding the right fit solution for their and their employees’ needs.  We have over 220 contact centre partners and 120 technology partners, we don’t have favourites only right fits for your needs.   

Guest Author – Elaine Seculer (Head of Marketing at Taskaler)

As we dive deeper into the knockout stages of the Euros (dare we mention it), did you know that Pakistan is the largest producer of hand-sewn footballs? In fact, the official footballs used in the last two FIFA World Cups were crafted in Pakistan.

But there’s more to Pakistan than footballs; it’s also emerging as a leading location for outsourcing, offering unique benefits over many offshore countries that might first come to mind, which places Pakistan as an attractive alternative well-worth considering.

We speak with Jawad Farooq and Elaine Seculer of Taskaler to get the inside track on Pakistan as the latest outsourcing destination of choice!

1. The Rise of Pakistan in the Outsourcing World

When you think of outsourcing, countries like India, South Africa, and the Philippines are the destinations you probably first think off. They’ve been popular choices for years. However, these markets are becoming saturated, with increased costs being felt of late – that’s where Pakistan steps in!

A hidden gem if you may, not yet overrun with competition, meaning you can find high-quality talent at very competitive rates. Early birds in the market are already reaping the benefits!

2. Why Pakistan is Cost-Efficient?

Pakistan’s stock market has seen unprecedented levels of growth of late. The KSE-100 Index, tracking the largest companies listed on the Pakistan Stock Exchange is at a 6 year high, making it the top performer among Asian frontier markets, thanks to improving economic conditions and a favourable IMF deal which boosted investor confidence.

Whilst the country’s currency (rupee) is relatively weak, this has been highly favourable for international businesses who receive a healthy exchange rate against the dollar.

Did you know? Pakistan’s outsourcing rates are even more competitive than India’s, which has long been the go-to for outsourcing!

3. English Proficiency and Education

Pakistan’s Constitution and Laws are written in English. English is recognised as the official language and is widely used in business and higher education. This means that communication is smooth and easy, with about half of the educated population speaking English.

4. Big Brands and Business Environment

Pakistan is already attracting big brands, with businesses like Audi, BMW, Samsung, Unilever, Nestle, Carrefour, and Standard Chartered all successfully running their operations in Pakistan for years now. This shows that Pakistan has the infrastructure and capability to support large-scale business operations. Plus, with Pakistan being four hours ahead of British Summer Time (BST), you can easily set up shift patterns that cover your core business hours, making it convenient for meetings and collaboration.

5. A Thriving Start-Up Scene

Pakistan isn’t just about established companies; it’s also buzzing with start-up activity. There are numerous start-up incubators, funded by both private investors and global giants like Google, fostering a vibrant and innovative ecosystem.

Piqued your interest?

If you’re curious and want to explore more, drop us a line – we’d be more than happy to help you discover all that Pakistan has to offer for your business!

Manufacturers are having to grapple with a vast range of challenges; supply chain difficulties, skills gaps, changing commercial and distribution models, harnessing the potential of automation and AI, to name just a few. In which case the role, purpose and configuration of contact centres may seem like a question for another day.

But communicating with and managing customers is now a core undertaking – and manufacturers changing how they do it can have significant positive impacts across the rest of their business.

Customers, customer everywhere!

Managing customers in a commercially effective and brand-enhancing manner is a challenge, but the first challenge is often to define exactly who those customers are.

For manufactures they may well include: end-users, service and maintenance providers, sales agents and distributors, logistics and shipping agents, governmental agencies – as well as colleagues such as finance, billing, mobile engineers and so on.

All these customers have their specific needs and expectations, but all need to be handled and addressed in a manageable way, with best practice techniques developed, optimised and consistently deployed.

The financial case for consolidation of contract centre activities is often obvious, but the adoption of new contact centre advisor-supporting tools and technologies now make a high-performing, multi-skilled service a feasible reality.

A tower of babel?

Today, very few manufacturers can afford to operate in a single language market or markets. Globalised supply chains mean that – whether selling direct to end-users or through dedicated or networked agents and distributors – manufacturers inhabit a multilingual world. Without the ability to interact remotely with customers across most or all of the languages they use, firms will limit their scope to penetrate overseas markets and/or rise up the value chain with the product/service proposition.

Irrespective of the undoubted advances made in translation technologies which can enable multilingual customer support, operating a multilingual contacts centre – be that in a centralised hub, or through distributed in-country operations – is very challenging and costly. Increasingly, the skills to do so successfully – and leverage those supporting technologies – is a specialised undertaking.

Facing up to the cybersecurity threat

The threat from cybercrime and data security challenges more generally grow and grow. Aviva’ research suggests that 20% of UK businesses are subject to cybercrime annually (https://www.aviva.com/newsroom/news-releases/2023/12/One-in-five-businesses-have-been-victims-of-cyber-attack-in-the-last-year/ ) and the impact of such crime is increasing as organisations’ digital shifts progress.

Distributed, ill-managed systems and lines of communication often present firms’ greatest areas of vulnerability. Added to which ‘social engineering’ and scammers’ targeting of individuals employees continues to account for most points of corporate failure, giving criminals access to vital systems and data.

Professional, secure and well-trained contact centre operations can provide a robust defence against the cybercrime threat. Again, a consolidated contact centre function, with tested processes and technology to underpin data control, isn’t a guarantee of cyber resilience. But it’s a great way to address threats whilst building internal coherence and capabilities.

Need to talk?

Customer Contact  Panel  based in Sheffield, a city with a proud industrial history and a strength in advanced manufacturing technologies. So, we know a little bit about manufacturing, but we know a lot about contact centres! Contact centre services are intrinsic to the manufacturing sector’s success. We can help guide firms through the best approaches, infrastructures and technologies to deliver the best customer management. This includes outsourcing to specialist providers who can deploy their expertise and insight, allowing manufacturing firms to focus on developing their products and services.

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